10 Questions About the SLUSD Health Center

10 very good questions to ask the SLUSD about their upcoming health clinic.

Not to sweep the confetti away too soon, but I have a few questions for the SLUSD about the new health center that's being put up on our dime. In the spirit of being open and honest, I want to know:

1) Who Pays if Someone is Treated Incorrectly at the Center?

If Timmy goes to the center and gets the wrong advice/pills/etc. from the person treating him, who will be footing the bill when mommy and daddy come to sue? If it's being operated by the SLUSD, I'm thinking us.

2) Who Are the Volunteers?

When I went to the city council meeting when this was just a proposal, I heard mention of retirees offering to come and help staff the facility. Are the people who will provide direct treatment be registered, up-to-date-allowed-to-practice volunteers or I-was-an-RN-30-years-ago volunteers? (This ties into liability a bit, as asked above). Typically, volunteers offering clinical services are required to have specialized training and/or professional licensing.

3) What Happens If/When the Money Runs Out?

Superintendent Cathy claims that this entire operation is self-sufficient, funded by private donations and various grants. If the day comes that these resources dry up, who's paying to keep it open? Sorry, we're being honest, I forgot-will San Leandro tax payers be given the option to say "no, we won't foot the bill" and force the district to close it, instead?

4) Is This Planned Parenthood Masquerading as a Band-Aid Factory?

Will this district-run facility be providing any form of birth control? If so, to what extent will parents have a say in this? Conventional medical facilities generally have some leniency in this area, but the waters are certainly being muddied when you involve a school district.

5) Who's Getting In?

What guarantee do we have that this facility's resources will be limited to minor children enrolled in SLUSD schools and no one else? Will there be any sort of restrictions made to prevent those whose parents do provide health care from receiving treatment?

6) How Much Treatment is Being Offered?

Obviously no open-heart surgery, but what can a San Leandro parent expect from the center? Will the amenities be in line with what a school nurse used to provide? If yes, why not just hire the nurses back?

7) I Thought We Just Passed Measure L?

I ask this, because if we're now footing the bill for Measure L on top of 30, M, and B, and the district is now taking on this loan from the city, that means we will now be spending money on this, as well. (Don't forget, the district is paying that bill back with the money they get from us, the tax payer).

8) Isn't This Redundant?

The Bay Area is home to some of the best and most abundant sources of free medical aid in the entire country. If free medical care is already being offered from numerous outside sources, why is the district's facility even necessary?

9) How Will We/Can We Afford to Insure HIPPA Compliance?

Keeping a medical facility, no matter how limited, up to date and code is not in the same league as maintaining a basketball court. Is the budget, as outlined by Cathy, going to be able to sustain these requirements?

10) What Rights do the Parents Have?

Do the students need to get a "permission slip", so to speak, if their child is going to use this facility? Generally, minors have to get consent to receive any sort of medical treatment, save for the occasional venereal disease (seriously).

Sorry if all/some of this got answered at the city counsil meeting, but so far I have yet to find any sort of literature on this topic on the district site or on the Patch. Apologies if the info is out there, and if it is, it's not easy to find.

Awaiting the district's reply...

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Leah Hall February 07, 2013 at 07:09 PM
The sad thing is that pieces like this written by uninformed and non-credible sources get confused with professional journalistic reporting. I saw a pointed example of this a few weeks ago and was dumbfounded by what I saw. I was asked to review a grant proposal in which, as part of the submission requirements for a journalistic article or professional report, the applicant submitted a Patch article written by Robert Marrujo, "artist, gamer, writer" who wrote about a subject in which he has no professional background or skills. It's bad enough when the general reader is confused, but when a staff person putting together a grant proposal makes this mistake? I find this profoundly disturbing or laughable, and actually both.
Robert Marrujo February 08, 2013 at 03:42 AM
Leah, without knowing the contents of the blog you dismissed, I can't affirm whether or not I have "professional background or skills" in this unknown subject. Given you know nothing about myself other than what you may have read on the Patch, I can sympathize with you having a knee-jerk response, whether right or wrong. With that said, you should be made aware that the Patch is intended for local voices to have a place to express their opinions to other people. In this instance, I asked questions that I consider to be reasonable given the circumstances at hand. I did acknowledge that the council meeting might have answered some of these questions, but considering that many people in the city are either unaware of this development or could not attend the meeting, I thought some people might be sharing a similar sentiment to my own.
Robert Marrujo February 08, 2013 at 03:45 AM
"Uninformed and non-credible" is also an odd thing to type, considering that, as I pointed out before, you know very little about me and thus really have no credibility yourself to make that sort of statement. I will say that I worked in the district as a tutor for over six years, so I do have some experience with the SLUSD. I was also a student in this district for my entire K-12 education. Regardless, it doesn't matter either way because I've not purported myself to be an expert and, again, this was posted as a blog on the San Leandro Patch.
SLPatcher February 08, 2013 at 03:50 AM
Uh, there is so much wrong with what you just wrote, Leah, I don't even know where to begin. For one thing, I don't know what could've induced you to call this "reporting" when, for one thing, it's a blog, and for another it's a series of ten QUESTIONS being asked about a proposed project. From what I've read, Robert isn't pretending to know the answers to anything he's asked otherwise, you know, why would he write a piece asking for answers? And since when was it a bad thing to ask questions about a proposed project that will be payed for with OUR tax dollars - I find it profoundly disturbing and laughable that anyone would be so naive as to accept a proposal that will cost quite the pretty penny and will be funded by us, without asking anything of the people proposing its construction. The uninformed are the sheep of this society. I'm assuming by calling this uninformed and non-credible, that you have the answers to the questions put forth in this post, from informed, credible sources? I'm waiting.
Robert Marrujo February 08, 2013 at 03:53 AM
Thank you, Mayor. I found it essential to post these questions in a public forum for people who are either unaware of the health center proposal or had similar trepidations. I am aware of the recordings, which will be informative, but this was more about drawing a little more attention to what's happening.
Leah Hall February 08, 2013 at 05:06 AM
I rest my case, Your Honor.
Robert Marrujo February 08, 2013 at 05:18 AM
Unfortunately, you haven't addressed the legitimate points I raised to you, nor have you in any way explained why you are disapproving of the questions I asked. I am assuming you disapproved of my questions, because you really haven't presented any sort of lucid argument to begin with, but given the apparent disapproval you have of me as a writer, I'm not sure what else to think.
Leah Hall February 08, 2013 at 06:34 AM
Unfortunately, I don't "get" you and no one else can help us for now. When you get the chance, ask Angela if she is willing to review. You have an awesome sister, my friend. -Leah
Fred Eiger February 08, 2013 at 06:35 AM
Leah, I hate to break the news to you sweetheart, but your posts are the most uninformed and non-credible on Patch. Pot meet Kettle.
Leah Hall February 08, 2013 at 06:39 AM
Fred! You just made my day. Coming from you, sir, this is an honor. Patch on!
Robert Marrujo February 08, 2013 at 07:46 AM
"Unfortunately, I don't "get" you and no one else can help us for now.". This comment is nonsensical. It doesn't address what I asked you or why you feel my questions were inappropriate to ask, and has nothing to do with the issue at hand. You seem content with posting gibberish and self-serving minutiae. This is reminiscent of the instance when you wasted everyone's time by cataloging the number of times a person commented on a particular article.
David February 08, 2013 at 01:58 PM
Robert, ignore the clown. She's never taken on any "issue" in any reasonable blog post like yours or like mine back when I bothered. Instead, she attacks the poster as unqualified to post an *opinion* (or in my case, simple math). Like the good little totalitarian she is, she prefers you shut up and listen to your masters in government.
Fred Eiger February 08, 2013 at 02:27 PM
Just who is Leah Hall anyway? Some washed up Las Vegas Go-Go dancer/affrimative action plug who mouths off about her "Yale" education which was probably given to her based on her gender and not any meaningful qualifications. A loud mouthed hypocrite who lives in a run down neighborhood just steps from a ghetto? The woman has no standing to give an opinon on something as inocuous as say fly paper yet she thinks she's the Dowager of Broadmoor. She takes the position of blasphemy and sodomy and claims "Piousness" by attending a heathen "church". When I could not have expected any less foolishness, Leah can be counted upon to prove me wrong, yes there will always be a lower common denominator.
Leah Hall February 08, 2013 at 05:24 PM
The truth hurts. Here's a pic of me in my glory Go-Go days.... http://www.beertripper.com/OffTopic/star_wars_images/Princess_Leia_Gold_Bikini_chained.jpg
Summer Hemphill February 08, 2013 at 06:54 PM
Fred Eiger is a mysoginistic,bigoted homophobe who represents everything that is wrong with America today ! To be criticized,insulted & maligned by Fred is equivalent to winning the Medal of Freedom & any patriotic American who has yet to incur his wrath isn't trying hard enough ! Apparently belonging to a minority group (angry & clueless morons) whose views are repudiated regularly at the ballot box is too much for Fred to deal with so his only alternative is spewing his repugnant viewpoint to more intelligent Patch readers ! Fortunately many who oppose everything that Fred stands for have sharper minds & much sharper tongues & I for one am more than happy to exchange insults with him any day of the week ! I'll see you at Guido's,but you won't see me !
Summer Hemphill February 08, 2013 at 10:05 PM
Fred is "misogynistic" !!! Mea culpa !!!
tony santos February 09, 2013 at 06:17 AM
look folks stop the crap here-there are legitimate issues with this new student clinic. I don't know the need for such a clinic, especially since there is a hospital across the street from both the high school and the academy. also there is a move to introduce "urgent care" services at fire stations-could the department have helped here? as for funding, how much effort went into looking for funds to support the clinic? feds, state, county and what about measure a funds. I have as many questions as anyone here-and don't forget we are soon to have a $700 million dollar facility in san leandro-who determined the need here? when i was in the air force, i worked as a school nurse for a little while so why not staff these facilities with techs? and why should city put up money? city has no jurisdiction over schools and city is not a bank-
Leah Hall February 09, 2013 at 06:37 AM
Any facility is going to have liabilities in addition to its assets. The rational behind having the clinic is to make health services convenient for students so that they don't have to skip school. For many students, this convenience could be the difference between succeeding and failing in school. The evidence from many districts in the Bay Area is that the expenses and insurance liability of these clinics is more than offset by improvements in student success rates.
Summer Hemphill February 09, 2013 at 07:15 AM
The quality of life will improve for everyone in San Leandro after the last of the right-wing lunatics realizes that they're no longer wanted here & finally leaves for a red state where they haven't become a minority yet ! This will accomplish two things,first it will raise the collective IQ on San Leandro upon their departure & secondly it will raise the collective IQ of a red state upon their arrival ! Now that's a win win situation if there ever was one ! Tony's medical opinion is as worthless as his opinion on any other matter of significance,he thinks the firefighters should be taking people's temperatures ! Hey Tony do you know the difference between an oral & rectal thermometer ? It's the taste & that's probably the only mistake you'll never make twice ! Thank goodness you only get one vote like everyone else does,why don't you let the people who were elected by the majority of your neighbors decide what's best for San Leandro !!!
David February 09, 2013 at 01:40 PM
Are there any differences in truancy rates between SLHS and BHS, which has a clinic? Do you have any evidence for your assertion? We've already gone through how minorities actually do better at SLHS in terms of outcomes than BHS, using actual school data. Interesting how you claim Mr. Marrujo is unqualified to ask questions, and yet you just post completely unsupported assertions. If anything, simply looking at another high school nearby would indicate that *not* having a clinic is tied to better outcomes amongst poor and minority students.
David February 09, 2013 at 01:42 PM
It would be interesting to hear the Superintendent's justification for diverting future revenues for SLUSD to this clinic versus using it for other capital improvements to actual school properties.
Robert Marrujo February 09, 2013 at 09:54 PM
It's obvious that "any facility is going to have liabilities in addition to its assets"; the real question is whether or not a district that is barely held together financially should be taking on the burden of those liabilities and assets. Making "health services convenient for students so that they don't have to skip school" is a commendable intent, but does not address the full reality of the situation. As stated above, with the wealth of free medical care available in the Bay Area, it would seem more prudent, given the limited funds in the district, to instead offer a community meeting or brochures educating parents as to their options in this area. It's questionable that the clinic will offset the expenses and insurance liabilities of the center, as student success is not a guarantee and we are currently barely floating above water both financially and in terms of state test scores. Healthy students do not make for quality implementation of curriculum and properly equipped facilities.
Jessica Gardner February 10, 2013 at 03:40 AM
Why not just bring the school nurse back to the high school and save all this money?
Marga Lacabe February 10, 2013 at 04:36 AM
I think Robert's questions are legitimate, and have asked Mike to answer them. I can answer 4, however. I'm pretty sure they will provide contraception and safe-sex education, community clinics usually do, and by law parents do not need to give consent for their children to receive it. Robert, I do wonder if you tried writing directly to anyone in the district to see if you got answers?
Robert Marrujo February 10, 2013 at 08:29 AM
I specifically wrote it here to get a response in a public forum, especially because I know other people more than likely want to know the same thing. You should read the other blog I put up, "10 More Questions..." I don't know if you will feel the questions are any better or not, but I think I bring up more points worth mentioning.
Robert Marrujo February 10, 2013 at 08:34 AM
Agreed. But that sort of thing doesn't get a person's name on a commemorative plaque, so I guess we'll have to settle for this.
Fred Eiger February 11, 2013 at 05:02 AM
Summer must be Irish.
David February 11, 2013 at 12:56 PM
How about a test to see how long it takes for this comment like all my others to get flagged...
Marga Lacabe February 12, 2013 at 01:20 AM
Robert, I suggest that what you do is forward the questions directly to the District and then post their responses. I say this because I don't think anyone actually reads the Patch. I know I have stopped reading it in a daily basis and Mike rarely glances at it. But I will remind him to answer your questions.
Robert Marrujo February 13, 2013 at 07:37 AM
Well I guess that depends on how fast Leah can nudge her mouse across the screen ;)


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