The demonization of Chavez

The US mass media demonizes Chavez because of policies that undermine the propaganda that the market is more efficient than rational planning.

The US bourgeois demonize Chavez and the lack of democracy in Venezuela but Chavez just won his election 54% to 44% over his rival who accepted defeat saying that “to know how to win, you need to know how to lose!”. Voter turnout was one the highest in Venezuela’s history, 80.94% of the 19,119,809 registered voters. As Pepe Escobar points out "Chavismo channels no less than 43 per cent of the state budget to an array of social policies. Unemployment went down from over 20 per cent to less than 7 per cent. No less than 22 public universities were built in the past 10 years. The number of teachers went from 65,000 to 350,000. Illiteracy has been eradicated." Could do with some of that here.

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Fred Eiger October 11, 2012 at 12:27 AM
What a joke. Chavez is running that nation into the ground and you know it. But then you're the same putrid fool who thinks that only thing wrong with Cuba is that it's a "one party" system.
Craig Williams October 13, 2012 at 05:23 PM
What a joke , U.S. oil companies screw up and have major accidents at their refineries and consumers pay up. Not many, if any other industries can get away with that.!If a company screws up it usually loses business or has to cut profits. For the oil companies it's a bonanza.Yet you don't hear the main stream media even bringing up this point because of the "petro ad dollars." Some conservative business economists even argue to always be prepared for the irrational oil spike.They have us by the short hairs and no one has the balls to address the issue.
Dalamar October 13, 2012 at 05:59 PM
Simply put, our economic climate had become; Privatize the profits and socialize the costs.
Richard Mellor October 13, 2012 at 06:10 PM
The other thing is that what is not counted in business costs is clean up. When factories or industrial plants close and owners of capital shift it in to another area or branch of the economy, the taxpayer cleans up the mess. The waste and pollution the market creates, public funds clean it up. I think that's just plain putrid. Remember that cruise ship that conked out in the Gulf of Mexico, the taxpayer (USCG) went out and hauled it back in. How come the cruise ship owner didn't call around to find some entrepreneur that could do it cheaply enough? It's pointless making these arguments to some people though, it gives them a credibility they don't deserve; you know, the "in brain out mouth" people.
Fred Eiger October 13, 2012 at 09:04 PM
Venezuela was making such great strides in progress in the 1940's, 1950's, and 1960's in eliminating poverty and creating a modern society. However, the Communists continued to raise trouble. I remember the newsreels of Communist pigs attacking Vice-President and Mrs. Nixon in 1958. He stood firm and refused to be intimidated by those brainless swine. Same with Mrs. Nixon. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPZFSqmPQ-g
Fred Eiger October 13, 2012 at 09:07 PM
The courage of Vice-President Nixon and his wife.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc2ZdQLrSXg&feature=related
Fred Eiger October 13, 2012 at 09:10 PM
The Red Fanatic Activists even harrased him in Peru and Ecuador.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PxaqGif_Dg&feature=related
Craig Williams October 14, 2012 at 03:20 AM
We have so much in common with our brothers and sisters from Latin America and should highlight that fact. Not only did they hate Nixon but his is consistently voted the most hated American Prez.
Richard Mellor October 14, 2012 at 03:56 AM
The main points of what I put up here are missing. Does Fred think it is a good thing that a former colonial country can build 22 universities, in 10 years, not for billionaires but for the mass of the population and increase public school teachers fivefold and eliminate illiteracy. Is that a good thing? Is it a good thing that in a presidential election almost 85% of eligible voters turned out and the election was verified as democratic by observers from all over the world including the US. Is that progress? Now I am not uncritical of Chavez. But, and this is your last chance to prove you are a critical thinker Fred; is that a positive or a negative? Or, is it putrid.
Fred Eiger October 14, 2012 at 05:34 PM
Former Colonial Country??? Hey Mellor it's been almost 200 years since Spain left Venezuela. Secondly, what good is "22 Universities in 10 years" if they are just indoctrination centers and warehousing students? Oh wait, as long as the "universities" are indoctrinating students into Communism that is a good thing. Your second favorite country Cuba allegedly has a high literacy rate, but how is that translated into a socially mobile society? It doesn't. Is Veneuzuela's economy so robust that it is making technological/medical/industrial breakthroughs? NO. So Mellor your argument is shallow and "putrid". Democratic Election??? Oh yeah, we're supposed to take the word of avowed socialists that Chavez' election was valid.
Fred Eiger October 14, 2012 at 09:10 PM
Latin's are ungrateful for all that the United States has done for the region over the past 200 years.
Dalamar October 14, 2012 at 10:10 PM
Fred, Is this either; 1) A scientific poll among the U.S. "Latin's" population? 2) A scientific poll among the entire global population of "Latin's"? Or 3) Is this another one of your 'gut instincts' you proudly announce randomly? Please elaborate, we're all on the edge of our seats waiting for your response and your sources.
Richard Mellor October 14, 2012 at 11:42 PM
@Dalamar, It's hard to say with Fred. It's would be comical were the interventions in to Latin America by US capitalism not so tragic and brutal as recently as the overthrow of Allende and the assassination of Chile's constitutionalist general, Rene Schneider. He says he's a worker but who knows as he hiders his identity. He revels in idiotic and unstabstantiated claims. I would like to think he's just stupid as his views and positions he defends have had such violent consequences for the victims. At least if I take that position I can have a little sympathy for him. But stupidity can be dangerous when the possessor of it has social power; look at George W Bush.
Dalamar October 15, 2012 at 01:33 AM
@Mr. Mellor, Generally speaking, yes you are correct. “Misunderstanding arising from ignorance breeds fear, and fear remains the greatest enemy of peace.” Lester B. Pearson and in the case of George W. "There is nothing more frightening than ignorance in action.” ~ Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
Richard Mellor October 15, 2012 at 02:03 AM
Bush said the French are such wimps, they "don't have a word for entrepreneur". This is from a guy who never worked, dodged the draft and every business someone started up for him to run failed and someone else stepped in to cough up cash. Talk about welfare. I don't vote for either of the two wall street parties candidates but I'll say this about Clinton, he was smart. And I don't think they ever really trusted him, from a poor, divorced white working class family, played saxophone with blacks in their churches. He wasn't yer established old US bourgeois family.
Richard Mellor October 15, 2012 at 02:05 AM
oh, forgot. Just for you know who's benefit, "entrepreneur" is a French word.
Fred Eiger October 15, 2012 at 04:42 AM
Where is the exact quote that the French don't have a word for entrepreneur? Clinton smart? You are a buffoon.
Fred Eiger October 15, 2012 at 04:43 AM
Allende was communist and Pinochet was a hero for saving Chile from that mad man.
Donna Soares October 16, 2012 at 01:03 AM
Hugo Chavez is a demon. No one has to parlay him into one, he already is a demon.
Richard Mellor October 16, 2012 at 01:05 AM
Sorry, Donna, I don't believe in demons.
Donna Soares October 16, 2012 at 01:06 AM
Try looking in the mirror. You are a walking pod of bad karma. All you do is complain and bring others down. Do you have any hobby or other form of entertainment other than this blog?
Talisa C. October 16, 2012 at 01:14 AM
Donna, You must be new to the Patch. Half the people here fit that description. And if you think Richard is bad, then you should think Fred is worse.
Richard Mellor October 16, 2012 at 01:57 AM
Donna, I have always been involved in active politics. I was a shop steward for many years and published an opposition bulletin in my national Union, AFSCME. I am retired now but was also involved in rental rights struggles, we won $1,000,000 from Hud in a campaign for section 8 renters. (One of our issues was covered on the front page of the SL Times some time ago) I was also involved in the Occupy movement a little and ran for Oakland city council in 1996. I am not negative as I believe in a future, but not a future that continues down this same path. I don't have to be negative, what is happening to workers and our families, as well as the poor, is negative enough. I am optimistic we can change it but not by voting for one of the two Wall Street parties.
Mike October 16, 2012 at 02:36 AM
Richard you write an interesting blog but I think you are wrong on Chavez. He rigged the system to the point if he didn't win something would be wrong, The fact that his opponent was able to garner 44% speaks volumes on what Venezuela people feel, it shouldn't have been that close.
Richard Mellor October 16, 2012 at 03:29 AM
Mike, in all honesty, I would have to investigate it a little further myself, I am not uncritical of Chavez. But I do know that, like Cuba, these countries have produced remarkable results in the face of massive overt and covert at times, attempts by the US government to undermine them. These improvement, I am sure, would never have been possible when the energy oligarchs ruled. It is only fair to compare a country like Venezuela or Cuba, to Pakistan, Somalia, Bolivia or other countries where US imperialism has ruled to see th difference.
Craig Williams October 16, 2012 at 03:43 AM
Chavez has been an interesting leader. The former baseball player and military leader rules a country that has won what the oil companies call "the geological lottery." There is a lot of crime and the opposition media is relentless, according to one writer "like Fox on steroids." One only wonders what the U.S. investment in clean energy investment would be if we had a Chavez. Oil giants like Chevron are in constant negotiations with Chavez though they would prefer someone who would privatize the industry and probably are connected to his opponents campaign. For significantly reducing poverty by 20 percent , he should by any fair journalist or policy experts measure get the gold metal in humanity for that achievement. I don't know or read enough about the country but much but he drinks too much espresso(25 cups a day) to be a great leader, but maybe thats what it takes. Socialism after winning the geological lottery would make a good documentary, in my humble opinion.
Fred Eiger October 24, 2012 at 12:39 PM
Oh look, the brutal dictator/punk Chavez, along with Castro an Putin want Obama re-elected.... http://times247.com/articles/obama-receives-endorsements-from-three-dictators No surprise here.


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