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Shared sacrifice? Tax the churches and all religious organizations

Stop the tax rippoff: tax religious institutions and property

 

I do not believe in gods which makes me an atheist I suppose.  I can't accept that some supernatural being made the earth or impregnated a human woman with its offspring or ordered humans to mutilate their male children in return for its undying and eternal favor.

If people want to believe in such myths though, I believe they should be able to do so freely and without discrimination or persecution. But I  do not believe that Christian mythology should be given any more credibility in such maters as the origins of the material world or us as occupants of it, than Greek or Roman mythology.  The idea that there are colleges of divinity or doctors of divinity that are given serious credibility in the world of science or education is ridiculous.


These organizations though carry a lot of weight and influence thinking and politics. The Catholic church for instance has its own state and representatives in the governments of nations where it has a presence. It has been complicit in the deaths and assassinations of Liberation Theologists that were outspoken critics of the US support for fascists and right wing death squads in the Americas.  Once the religion of the feudal aristocracy owning vast quantities of land it is now one of the most powerful institutions of capitalism and the free market.  We spend billions of dollars and much wasted time in the US fending off the influence of these organizations in the education of our children substituting myth and fairy tales for reason and scientific truth.

An article in my local paper today talks about the increasing boldness of these institutions involving themselves more openly in the political process telling their flock who to vote for and preaching openly political sermons.  The Pulpit Freedom Sunday movement, the arm of a Christian legal group called Alliance Defending Freedom based in Arizona, is aiming to take the US Internal Revenue Service on head on as it challenges the 1954 law banning churches from supporting political causes or candidates during services.  The deal is that they get tax exempt status for this small detail. It's an interesting type of Christianity that resides in Arizona, throws around the "freedom" label and says nothing and actually supports the harassment, killing and persecution of immigrants, desperate to feed their children.

The religious organizations go on about the discrimination and oppression they face in society yet they wield incredible influence considering they are institutions that peddle myth.  You can pretty much commit any sort of malfeasance and run for office in this country (in fact it is a plus), anything except admit to being an atheist.  It is not them that are discriminated against but those of us that do not accept their mythology as truth.

The intention of the separation of church and state wasn't the church's encroachment on government but government's encroachment into the church" says one preacher adding that, "If I talk about an issue of the violation of biblical truth, then it ceases to be a political issue. It's a spiritual issue."

The Arizona based Alliance Defending Freedom (except for  undocumented Latino immigrants driven by poverty to seek work elsewhere) wants to transform the legal system and "reclaim America" from "Radical anti-Christian groups" and "debunk" "..the myth of the so-called separation of church and state."  Many of these institutions are the right wing Christian Evangelicals that hate gays, blacks, Jews (except Zionists) and any others that don't believe their stuff.   But the more mainstream institutions like the Catholic and Mormon Churches are very prosperous businesses that get huge tax breaks and tax exempt status on property and land, possible income as well.

So these institutions rake in billions, trillions over the years through tax exemption.  We should allow them to preach any politics they want and repeal the tax exempt status, religious institutions should be taxed like any other business. 

I would urge those political activists that get these initiatives on the ballot to change legislation, to get together and introduce legislation to eliminate this perk; make an issue of it, go an the offensive and place it on the public agenda.  The IRS allows these institutions to violate this law with impunity, we need to make an issue of it and make a real effort to repeal the tax law.  We can use that money in a more productive way, build some schools, hire some teachers.

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Stefanie Pruegel January 29, 2013 at 05:11 pm
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David January 21, 2013 at 10:12 pm
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Stefanie Pruegel January 21, 2013 at 09:47 pm
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David April 27, 2013 at 03:09 pm
Oh come on, Rob. You talk about me cherry picking stuff? 10/10? Sure. And as I've shown you canRead More pull out Maxwell Park, North Oakland, parts of SF (Glen Park, for example), parts of El Cerrito and other locations to show that API scores aren't well-correlated with property values. Again, why do homes sell for the same $/sq foot in Maxwell Park as Estudillo Estates? San Lorenzo's API is about the same or better than most of SLUSD. Property values there are lower. The clearest example of what effect API scores have on property values was mentioned below, about a 10% difference depending on which side of the tracks, er, 580 you live on in Castro Valley. 10%? whoopdedo, that kind of variation is washed out when you factor in commute times, crime, amenities, etc. In fact, API scores are likely to continue to shrink as a factor in RE values as more and more parents flee the public schools, no matter what the API (witness SLUSD, the 30% drop in OUSD enrollment in just the past decade, etc). In another generation, we'll be accused by our children of child abuse by having sent them to public schools.
Rob Rich April 27, 2013 at 12:38 pm
If you accept the premise that API scores are poorly correlated with real estate vualues, then is itRead More coincidental that the top school districts are in areas with high real estate values? http://www.greatschools.org/find-a-school/7046-ten-california-school-districts-highest-test-scores-2012.gs. In the old days, 10 for 10 was considered pretty good correlation.
David April 15, 2013 at 09:58 am
To my point. Fred, we can agree to disagree, but here's my point: Leah, you have repeatedly sungRead More the praises of BUSD. More than a few of your neighbors and those in the other upper middle/lower upper class areas of SL think similarly. BUSD, as I have also pointed out, does a *worse* job, relative to SLUSD, of educating what I presume you'd call "stressed" kids--those in poor socioeconomic strata, blacks and Hispanics of whatever color. Yet, you hold BUSD up as a great system. It's not. The only reason you and your fellow travelers in the Broadmoor/Estates/Bay-O think it is, is due to the presence of "enough" upper class white/Asian kids who perform well enough to drag up the overall scores. This has a beneficial effect on property values, demographics etc in places like Berkeley and certain neighborhoods in Oakland. How to quickly achieve that in SLUSD? Re-organize the schools so that they're K-8. We'd automatically get better scoring K-8 schools in the Roosevelt/Bancroft districts, and with those high performing schools in the Manor. With a stroke, you'd get 40-50% of K-8 kids in SLUSD in "high performing" API 800+ schools. And Fred, we'd just have to disagree here. Schools of reasonable size like Hillcrest (K-8, upper class area) do just fine, I think a similar dynamic would work here in the Estates etc.
David April 15, 2013 at 09:54 am
Leah, I *highly* doubt the kids' poor outcomes result form "everyday stress." As I'veRead More repeatedly pointed out, 7/8 of my great-grandparents never progressed passed 8th or 9th grade, yet they all achieved higher levels of literacy and numeracy than those demonstrated repeatedly by Mr. Heverly's high school students. As for everyday stresses, need we go into life in the 1880's/1890's and how easy people have it today? You want to compare today's "stresses" to those of being a black girl in Mobile Alabama in 1890, or a black guy in Beaumont Texas in 1890? Moving on to today's world, and your ridiculous comments. As Fred points out, kids today get food paid for by us taxpayers, classes under 30 students (not that class size has *EVER* been demonstrated to do anything for students, but it does increase the numbers of teacher union members...). Cont..
Fred Eiger April 15, 2013 at 02:23 am
I doubt it David, times have gotten worse. With billions of money wasted on welfare, rentRead More subsidies, free school breakfasts and lunches all we have to show are fat, lazy ignoramus' sloths who only want more welfare and continue to produce idiots. Leah, your educational views are abject failures. It's times for you and your ilk to just go away and leave the educational system to the adults who know what works.