LIVE: East Bay Leaders React to Obama-Romney Debate

Read what East Bay business and political leaders say about the first presidential debate as it happens.

7:30 p.m. — A lot of subjects hit on in the debate. The economy, the deficit, health care, gridlock in Washington were a couple. Did you like the answers from the canidates? We'll learn more from the people with debate now over, but give your opnions now in our comments section.

7:15 p.m. — Romney stumbling over saying "poorer" and then recovering with "low-income," got some laughs.

7:10 p.m. — Eric Swalwell with a smile with Obama's line — "Is Romney keeping his plans secret because they're too good?"

7:03 p.m. Question for readers: Who do you think is winning the debate? Are you rethinking who you are going to vote for in November? Tell us in the comments section.

6:55 p.m. —  Everyone seems to be listening intently to the health care debate. Nobody saying anything.

6:45 p.m. — I asked our guests if there were any Democrats here who think Romney is winning the debate, and if any Republicans here think Obama is winning the debate. Nobody raised their hands.

6:40 p.m. — Mark Meuser says he's disappointed by the moderator, Jim Lehrer.

6:39 p.m. — The "you only pick losers" statement by Romney got some "ooooooos" from the crowd.

6:35 p.m. — Al Phillips, the Republican Assembly candidate, hasn't said anything during the debate but he has put together a full page of notes.

6:32 p.m. — Another editor comment from me: Obama seems to be sharper as the debate is going on.

6:27 p.m. — Obama saying, "I like it," when Romney apologized about calling Obama's health care law "Obamacare," garnered some laughs from the group.

6:21 p.m. — "I guess there's no rules (for the debate), just suggestions." Mark Meuser, Republican state senate candidate.

6:17 p.m. — This is completely an editorial comment of mine (has nothing to do with the people here), but I think Romney is doing well. 

6:12 p.m. — Romney line about "the middle class being buried" wasn't lost on many of the people at our party. (A reference to a recent Joe Biden line).

6:07 p.m. — Just about everyone chuckles at Romney's line about this not being the most romantic place for the Obama's anniversary.

6:05 p.m. — And we're off! Right before the debate, Amy Miller of the Dublin School Board says, "I'm nervous" with a laugh.  

6 p.m. — Our attendees are having a little debate about the MoveOn.org...good way to get the fire started.

5:55 p.m. — People are starting to file in at the East Bay Patch debate party here in the Tri-Valley. Shelby McNamara, Danville chamber chief executive, David Behring, Danville Rotary, Al Phillips, Republican Assembly candidate and Eric Swalwell, Democratic Congressional candidate are a few of the people here.


Stick with Patch tonight as political and business leaders from the East Bay respond in real time to tonight's first presidential debate between President Barack Obama and Republican nominee Mitt Romney.

They are here in the Tri-Valley at Patch's debate watching party, we will let you know what they think of the debate.

Also, chime in yourself in the comments section of this article to give your thoughts of the debate and questions you might have to East Bay leaders.

The live chat will start at about 5:45 p.m.

Dalamar October 08, 2012 at 06:17 AM
Hello Albert, To answer your question "does socialism work as an economic system?" The simple answer is yes. Allow me to explain. It depends on the scale. A successful family is based on socialism. The parents provide for the children. Relatives can also provide for one another. In some cases friends do support one another in situations as well. As a country, yes it is possible but each individual has to understand there will be no economic growth or upward mobility into another class. If people choose to reject that principle in society and instead choose his/her own advancement as more important than anyone else's well being, then socialism will fail. A socialist nation succeeds or fails as a whole. Native American Indians exercised true free trade. They also exercised socialism within their respective tribes. Socialism and free trade coexisted. Free trade means one party exchanges the value of one item for another and considers the trade equal, 'fair' if you will. At some point individuals (Europeans) felt that was not good enough and introduced the concept of profit. A.k.a. the 'extra' value attributed to the exchange as Mr. Mellor describes. In a free trade market, in order for one party to achieve 'profit' the other party must receive something of lesser value in trade to create the profit. The lesser value of one party adds the 'extra' value to the other party. The 'extra' value (profit) creates the advancement or difference between individuals.
Albert Rubio October 08, 2012 at 06:18 AM
Socialism is the supposed miracle that makes significantly poorer countries rival industrialized wealthy countries. If it is determined that Socialism is illusory, Utopian, incoherent and contradictory to Economic principles, what system will you turn to?
Albert Rubio October 08, 2012 at 06:27 AM
If you believe that socialism works and you advocate socialism then you are a socialist. I say as a logical conclusion not as a slander, just as I am a Capitalist as a point of fact. I cannot discuss more tonight, but the left by and large supports Socialistic policies. These are the source of our economic problems. The right supports interventionism also damaging the country. This is exactly why you must read Economics in one Lesson. IF you were to finish that you could graduate to "Socialism" by Ludwig von Mises which is the definitive book on the subject. It explained why the Soviet Union would never be able to successfully implement a Socialist Economy and why it is not possible. If a group wants to excercise VOLUNTARY socialism, I have nothing to say, but when you advocate coersive socialism on society, there will be conflict.
Albert Rubio October 08, 2012 at 06:34 AM
Dalamar, >Native American Indians exercised true free trade. They also exercised socialism within their respective tribes. Socialism and free trade coexisted. This is true, provided that you desire to live a primitive existence. This is what differentiates the primitive from the modern. also provided you do it VOLUNTARILY. People are free to join or leave the community practicing socialism and it is not imposed on the greater community. If you claim that socialism can only work by imposing itself on the greater community then it is a monstrous idea and inimical to society. No vote can legitimize such coercion. If you believe Socialism should not be coercive on society, then you should oppose the attempts to impose Socialistic policies on the society through political means.
Albert Rubio October 08, 2012 at 06:36 AM
Dalamar, >To answer your question "does socialism work as an economic system?" The simple answer is yes. Thank you for your candid answer. Please compare your views to Economics in One Lesson.


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